Hi, I just joined after browsing for a bit... it looks like there are wonderful and very intelligent people here. 
First of all, I'm only 20 and I guess this is the first real love I've ever had... or maybe I still haven't. (that's kind of my dilemma..) But I do hope that, despite my age, I don't get too many answers focusing on how young I am, thus how this relationship won't matter much in the long run, how I still have a lot to learn and grow, etc. While I do appreciate the advice and I *know* all of that to be true, it doesn't really change the fact for me, it's very real right now. And I really need help...
The history... long story: I met him 3 years ago and was blown away. I'd been in one painful 9-month relationship before that, and it seemed he was everything I was looking for. Even now I'm still so mesmerized when I think of how it was at the beginning, he had such a powerful genuineness about him, the kind that made me feel so safe and in the moment and spiritually fulfilled, and he was so loving. He wasn't just exactly what I looked for in a guy, he was exactly what I looked for in a friend, in a PERSON. But one month later we fell into some trouble and he ended it really abruptly. Just cut me off without explanation. For the next year I couldn't stop thinking about him. It was crazy. Then I ended up moving to the city he had moved to because of a scholarship, and he confessed that he still had feelings for me and regretted what he'd done. He said he had run into a bad crowd, started doing steroids, and just generally wasn't in a good place at the time. I also came to find out that we had met barely a couple months after he had been dumped by the only girl he had ever loved, ever. He said he hadn't believed in love until he found her. He also said that he hasn't felt the same way about someone else, until me. We dated for about four months after that, then he broke it off again, and again it was completely sudden. Then, a few months after that, he again pursued me. Initially I wouldn't trust him again, but eventually we got back together, and now we've been dating for a year and a half.
Pro's:
1. Um, I kinda love him... I think. That feeling that I mentioned in the beginning... I still see it from time to time. We spend soo much time together now, that it's like we've practically been living together for months, yet still we have these intimate, really tender genuine moments occasionally. My whole life I've been kind of disinterested in most people, but with him, there's like this constant yearning to get to know him more and more, over and over, and just be in that weird, spiritual wavelength where it's just us and this wide unknown full of possibilities.
2. We have a lot of fun together. We laugh a lot, every day, constantly goofing off. We spend a lot of time bored together, because we moved to a new town and neither of us have very many friends or much money. But even being bored with him is somehow fun. We're really good friends, not just boyfriend/girlfriend.
3. We share the same values, for the most part. We share a belief in God, similar outlooks on life, etc.
4. He is a very honest person, and I have this gut feeling that he would never cheat. (And I'm paranoid about that, because my first relationship was with a cheating scumbag) Whenever he goes out drinking with his buddies, he always answers when I call, and comes home to me anyway. When we're out in public or at parties, he completely ignores other girls and seems to be only focused on me.
Cons:
1. Regarding number one above... the flipside is, I don't really think he feels the same way. I think he loves me, but I don't think he's IN LOVE with me, or is in... whatever it is that I feel towards him. It's just this gut feeling I have. The rest of the cons go into why I think this feeling is there.
2. Once, a little over a year ago, when we had been dating (again) for just a few months, we got into our first big argument because he said some stuff about looking for "a marriage type relationship" and how he doesn't feel I'm looking for the same thing. I told him I am, maybe, (at the time I wasn't sure I even believed in marriage- now I do) but I think that 'now' is the best indicator of 'future'. Since then my feelings have kind of changed... and look, don't get me wrong, I know I'm way too young to be seriously considering marriage and if he got down on one knee tomorrow it would be a NIGHTMARE, but all I'm saying is that I'd like to feel that he pictures some kind of future with us together. Just to know it's a possibility. But he NEVER talks about anything like that, EVER. The couple times I've tried to bring it up, he's said that he doesn't know if he'll ever get married, and that he just likes being with me, and that he's come to find out that thinking and talking too much about a relationship's future ruins it. But I have this nagging feeling that what he really means is, "I don't know if I'll ever get married... to you." It leaves me feeling that there is absolutely no emotion or thought in him that says, 'This could be it... she's all I want.'
3. This is kind of silly, but he rarely ever does little romantic cute things. I know they're not all that important in the long run, but I feel that the reason why is because he's lacking the emotion that stimulates such gestures. And I'm talking about the bare minimum here... holding hands in public... etc. My birthday was recent and I was out of town and he didn't even call me that day, I had to call him at 11 pm. (apparently he had been sleeping all day from a night of partying) He didn't even buy me a flower. In fact, he's never gotten me any sort of gift for any major holiday, even though I got him some awesome Christmas presents last year. I'm not all that materialistic, I'd just like a card. Made out of macaroni. SOMETHING. It's the thought that counts.... Sometimes he does do minor romantic gestures, but they're few and far between.
4. He's kind of rude sometimes, and insensitive. Example: Once we were out to dinner, and after the waiter left, he started going on and on about how it's so annoying that I customize my order so much, and how embarassing it is and how I'm such a pain in the ass. I mean, he REALLY went off on me, and I was just so stunned that I couldn't help but start crying at the table, and eventually had to go to the restroom. Maybe I'm a little oversensitive, but he is REALLY mean when he wants to be. Maybe it's a little of both, but I wonder about what this means for our 'compatibility'. In the time we've been dating he HAS gotten better about this, and now apologizes profusely when he sees he's hurt my feelings, but only after first getting annoyed with me for "getting butthurt".
5. Sex.... god, this is a big one. I mean, a real heartbreaker. The thing is, when we first started dating, he used to touch me in ways that made me feel... like, wow. But since then, it's like he's lost interest in trying at all. Actually, he's become downright selfish in bed. Most of the time he'll just grab my hand while we're watching TV and put it on his crotch, then say, "Touch my penis." That's LITERALLY how most of our encounters start these days. He pressures me into peforming oral sex on him, but he's gone down on me like three times, ever. He guilt trips me if I leave him with 'blue balls', or if I'm not interested to begin with. He NEVER really touches me down there unless I ask him or pressure him to (and even then he doesn't, most of the time), and he's completely uninterested in foreplay. Once, months ago, he did kind of touch me all over to this favorite song of ours that was playing, and it was like it was in the beginning. But it didn't really go anywhere and then afterward, he said, "That's the first time I've ever *really* touched you." Which just kind of made me feel terrible. I mean, if he was BAD at sex that would be ok, but the real heartbreaker is that he's really GOOD at it, he just doesn't seem to care about pleasuring me. He's said in the past that it makes him feel terrible that he can't make him orgasm, and it seemed to be a big emotional issue for him for a while, until I told him that all the pressure was making it harder for me and that I just liked having fun. So I wonder if that has something to do with it, but I think it's a pretty poor excuse. On top of that, I seem to be way more interested in sexy stuff than he is. Half the time that I'm kind of 'coming onto' him, he pushes me away or makes a joke. He says that his sex drive has just gone way down since he was my age (he's four years older), but again... I don't buy it. Also, we NEVER make out. In fact, he rarely kisses me at all. (though this has gotten kind of better since I've talked to him about it)
6. He's been kind of unreliable in the past. Like, saying he'll do something that I kind of depend on him for, like giving me a ride to the mechanic or doing some kind of home improvement thing, but then never following through, and on top of that, getting annoyed if I ask about it. (See, he's very easily irritated...)
7. We've been dating for 1.5 years and his parents don't know about it. He says that the reason for this is because once, 2 years ago, he ended up going to jail because the two of us were caught with alcohol and he was charged with distributing to a minor, and that since then his mom feels that I'm too young for him. But seriously.... 1.5 years, and I still have to be quiet when he's on the phone with his mom. My own mother, on the other hand, loves him because I do, though they've never met, and paid for us to go on a vacation to California this past summer. I just feel like this is a very bad sign.
8. I don't know quite how to explain this one, but it's kind of like, I have this really strong feeling that if I were to 'adjust' how I act towards him, all of the above con's would be fixed. That is, if I was kind of more 'hard to get'. I know this because occasionally, when he really pisses me off and I genuinely AM 'hard to get', that is, slow to dispense affection, uninterested, etc., all of the above ARE fixed. Also, he has straight up said in one of those joking-but-kind-of-serious tones that he wants what he can't have and that it's more fun that way. I for one am really, really, really looking to move wayyy beyond stupid games of cat and mouse. It's one thing to tease affectionately and playfully, but I am not willing to monitor myself to manipulate him. If he's bored with the relationship unless I do, that's a bad sign.
9. I'm a brunette and he has told me again and again that it would be 'so hot' if I dyed my hair blonde. That ex of his, the one he loved, was a brunette-dyed-blonde. Once he even suggested I get blue contacts. He says he can't help that blue-eyed, blonde girls have always been his thing. Yet I feel... like that's a bad sign. If he loves me, shouldn't he just love.... me? (P.S.- last time I brought this up, he also added that it's important to 'change things up' to keep a long-term relationship fun and sexy.... which kind of plays into #8)
So I'm at the point where I'm wondering if I should just cut him loose in order to make room for someone who WILL treat me right. On the other hand, the only other relationships I've been in where in the times we were broken up, and those only lasted a few weeks. I dated some great guys who treated me like I was a princess, but again... just a few weeks. So I'm wondering if my expectations are too high because I don't have another real, lasting relationship to compare to. I mean, I know it sounds like there are way more cons than pros, but I have to emphasize that most of the time, I'm very happy with him. I feel like we have a connection. And I'e tried talking to him about ALL of the cons mentioned. Sometimes it just turns into a fight. Sometimes we have good talks and he really does get better.... for a while. Then kind of goes back to the old pattern. But overall, I do feel it's been getting better. I realize mature relationships take a little bit of effort, but...
I don't know. I just don't. :/ What should I really be asking myself here?
Debut
Oh, wow, I don't know why that posted as anonymous. I know it's very long, but if anyone could help me at all, I would be SO appreciative... I don't really have a single person in my life that I feel comfortable talking to about this...
1Oh, and one more little note:
I'm not the only one that starts off serious conversations about how "I feel like you don't really love me because..." He does that too, and has occasionally pointed out some selfish/insensitive things that I didn't even realize I was doing. So that's a good sign, at least he cares in some way, and is sensitive about us.
Also about the marriage thing, a couple times when he's been a little drunk and 'talky' he's said stuff about how it kind of hurt him that I said before that I didn't think he was "the guy I would ultimately end up with". Which... um, I did say that, but the context and tone of voice kind of make up a lot of the story... it's hard to explain, but I didn't really mean it like that. Anyway, it makes me wonder if that's why he doesn't talk about any kind of future with us (not even in a cute joking way), maybe he took that comment really seriously... I mean he did bring it up like MONTHS after I said it...
Maybe we just *both* have trust issues. He says he's been hurt by women before and feels that no one is really interested in a guy who's too available.... but it was his open innocent availability that attracted me in the first place. That's exactly what I'm looking for! But by now shouldn't he see that I'm not like that? Unless he's just trying to manipulate me... but what if I'm being overly paranoid because I've been hurt myself in the past, leaving me on the same square one as him?
See how confused I am?!?! I tend to overanalyze things, I think.
2Okay, he came off of a bad relationship, and I am assuming he is about the same age? You didn't say, I don't think.
He dumped you twice, but you didn't say why?
He wants you to look like his ex... you stated.
Yes, you are VERY young and you said you aren't sure you love him....
Your quote: "Um, I kinda love him... I think."
Soo.... I don't see a lot of wonderful in this guy like you try to do. What exactly is the question you are seeking advice on?
****Without the reasons of the breakups and not knowing his age, etc., The only advice I can give is: If it were me? At 20 yrs old, and I am not playing the youth card, but you ARE only 20, and it is young and experience comes with living through these relationships until you find the right one.
***You will KNOW it when you have the right man. You won't have ANY of these kinds of questions and you won't have to over analyze, and you won't have to make a list of pros and cons.
***Therefore, he most likely isn't the one - especially since you don't even think you love him and you had a longer list of cons than pros.
Get out and have fun! Meet new people. Get out with your friends.
**Mr. Right WILL come along when you least expect it, and you will KNOW when it is the right man - like I stated above.
3Hey...
Over analyzing things is not a problem provided you can distinguish the right thing from the wrong.
Anyways, the most important thing is, ask yourself if you are TRULY happy with the way you are together now. If the good things outweighs the bad, I guess you could risk your chance of happiness with him.
But if not, don't hesitate and just dump him coz he doesn't deserve you. Give yourself a chance to be happy, you'll surely find someone to love you without all these drama...
And the sex that you two have?!
Girl, dump him real good!!
(Sorry! I don't like him just by the way you described him here. He is such a dick!!)
4Hahaha. "Touch my penis"? Sorry but I feel like someone should use his come-on technique in a sitcom 'cause just listening to you describe it made me laugh.
I know you said you kind of love him, but I think you should take a look at your pro/con list. Your cons are literally twice as long. It seems like you are just trying to hang on to him and "make it work" because you do have feelings for him, which I understand, but I feel like hanging on to him is just going to be worse in the long run.
There are also some things you mention that I think are just totally not cool. First off, the fact that he isn't willing to touch you, go down on you or even pretend to be romantic is not good. My boyfriend isn't as into foreplay as I am... but he at least makes an effort. I'm concerned that yours doesn't seem to even care.
His comments about changing your look are also pretty appalling. Saying you would look nice with blond hair is one thing. Saying you SHOULD dye your hair is another. He should like you the way you are.
He doesn't seem like a safe and secure guy. He's dumped you (quite randomly) in the past and he still seems like he likes the "cat and mouse game" as you said. I know he's older but it seems like you are more mature.
I think the biggest problem of all is just that he sounds totally insensitive. He hasn't mentioned you to his mom after all this time, he tells you he likes blue eyed/blond haired girls best, he's sometimes mean, he didn't even call on your b-day, etc... there's alot you've mentioned that falls into this category.
If you had a friend who was with a guy like this, what would you tell her? I know it sounds totally lame and cliche to say this but seriously, if you were my friend, I would tell you that you are awesome and you deserve better.
5Ok, the way that you describe this guy makes him sound like a complete and total selfish douche bag!!! Seriously why would you want to stay with someone who is completely sexually selfish, has dumped you 3 separate times (did not even have the common courtesy to tell you why), does not get you gifts for your bf/Christmas, does not tell his parents about you, wants you to change your appearance to look like his ex gf, and makes you feel inadequate. I could go on... well, for me the sexual thing would be the thing that would be a deal breaker for me. If a guy can't even be bothered to give me some foreplay, then I would not be bothered to sleep with him ever again. I don't really understand why you even want to be with someone that treats you this way??????
6Realistically he has got to be one of the worst types of guy.There were red flags popping up from the very beginning and why you continued to date him especially after dumping you with no explanation is something I really don't get. Honestly I don't want to be mean but it's pretty obvious that he could care less about you .
You are who you are end of story .Time to send him packing.It's way overdue.....
7ooh girl, i would just let him be. move on. you deserve so much better. no one should treat you like that. he didnt even call you on your bday? that is just not acceptable no matter what he was upto on that day!!!! if he doesnt talk the future with you, leave him alone, he just doesnt see the future with you. do you want to be with someone like that? a day to day relationship? i suggest you move on and never look back.
8I agree with the other ladies - I don't think he's a keeper, kiddo. There were a few comments that you made that really caught my attention: you said that your whole life you've been kind of "disinterested in most people" - but you've been very focused on your bf because of the connection you have/had with him.
I'm going to throw out a theory here. I think it's possible that you're so focused/connected to your bf precisely because of the fact that he's pulled a switcheroo on you: starting out as kind, connected, gentle (to get you hooked)...then inexplicably dumping you so many times - cold, and without a word of explanation.
It seems like when you first got together, he treated you very well, and you had a strong connection. Then he dumped you, and you went through the same reunite/dump cycle a few times (each time the positive behaviors associated with your initial connection grew weaker).
Sometimes we remain in relationships because that person, once upon a time, made us feel special in a way that no other person had (up to that point). That feeling can be so powerful, it's almost like a drug....it's almost mystical and "spiritual" (as you've described it). It can be interpreted as a very powerful validation of your own self-worth, for example, "This person sees that I really am special, and that's why he loves me. His love is proof that I am special, worthy, etc."
When that feeling/validation is taken away (arbitrarily, as has been done to you a few times by this guy), your subconscious goal may be to re-gain that feeling, and that sense of validation. (I think the impact of this is all heightened in your case because you never really experienced a profound connection with anyone before your bf.) So instead of really looking at the relationship you HAVE - and deciding if you want another ride on that particular roller coaster - you're looking at the relationship you HAD, and how he made you feel once upon a time. What you're really pursuing is the sense of worth and validation you experienced in your initial relationship with him. Does that make any sense? I think the anser to that is learning how to provide your own sense of worth and validation, honey.
I knew a girl who was successful, smart, and very pretty. She literally wasted her fertility on a guy who never married her, never valued her, and really never made her all that happy - all because the first year they dated, he was the man of her dreams. Her need to prove that he really was the man of her dreams - that she was right about him being her "soulmate" - was so strong that she threw away her chance to have a family. I know that sounds extreme, but it's true (and this was a girl who turned heads wherever she went - she could have had any number of decent guys). Trust me - you can waste a lifetime on relationships like this one.
The other thing you mentioned was that this guy used steroids. From the sound of things, he may still be using them. Aside from the muscle mass that steroids build, they can also decrease a man's ability to perform sexually (as well as his sex drive in general). They also increase feelings of anger and rage in the user. Additionally (aside from professional athletes), who really uses steroids these days? Is he so insecure that he'd risk his health (and potentially his life) so he could look more ripped? That's very, very strange.
And finally, hon, he seems very much like a mysogynist to me. It really seems like sex occurs only on his terms, when he wants it (since he rejects your advances). And of course, he doesn't care that you remain unsatisfied. WTF? Any man who would rather mess with your mind that mess with your body...seems like a mysogynist to me. I'm sorry, but I think you need to learn from this one, and move on to happier, healthier possibilities. Good luck.
9wow. sorry to say; but hes NOT a keeper; you are still young energetic and from your writings you are educated and KNOWS what it is that you really want; and this guy isnt the one to give it to you NOT even as a friend; hell take all that you will give him but ONLY if it has self pleasures involved; he wont ever give you more than what he has already; and to be honest; it seems that all you have gotten is what you are going to get; the story of his mom is just that a STORY; give me a break; hes not one to cheat; guess what; ALL men cheat - hes not stupid hes controlling; and he wants to place all of the blame on you for you to "fix" or "play chase games" guess what; you deserve better and NO you dont have such high expectations you just want to be RESPECTED and hes not doing it or giving it. Best of Luck to you. If it helps any; all the time that we as women spent on dwelling on these guys and what they want or dont want only allows us to grow deeper as women and dont think of it as a wast of 1.5 yrs rather as "practice" years.
10Wow this was long. If he's not "a keeper" then let him go. You deserve only the best in life. Good luck
11Wow, on one hand I am very grateful for all the thoughtful replies... I didn't actually think anyone would read my novelesque post, but on the other hand I'm pretty disappointed with the quality of response I got here. There seems to be a lot of jumping to conclusions.
1. I said I "think" I love him to be polite and show that I was open-minded. Obviously I do, or else I wouldn't be with him.
)" are just silly. Realistically life is
never like that. I've never 'just known' anything ever. I"m always asking questions, and I'm ALWAYS making pros and cons list. That's me and always will be and my personality has nothing to
do with him.
2. He's a dick sometimes, but I have yet to meet a person I find douchey. I'm pretty douchey myself. I flat out said that I'm uninterested in most people. That includes my closest friends. I can go into the most emotional, intimate encounters and delete the person's number the next day. I judge people and analyze them for usefulness. I think 99% of the population is pretty stupid. And yes, I have yet to meet someone who is not a dick in some way. I'm pretty observant of people.
So the fact that he is *sometimes* a dick isn't a dealbreaker by any means, and the fact that he is actually pretty smart, observant, and decent totally outweighs that.
3. Lines like, "WHEN ITS RITE YOU'LL KNO LOL
4. ...I *am* truly happy? I straight up said that in my post. He's my best friend; we have a connection. We laugh and have fun EVERY day, and trust each other.... which is a lot more than I can say for most married people. He's my favorite *person*. Does that statement not carry weight? Overall, I just feel like everyone here, like most people everywhere, didn't really listen, just waited for their turn to talk.
(Which is something he never does.)
You're really going to brand a guy you haven't even met as a MISOGYNIST because of an angry girlfriend's ramblings? That's a pretty serious psychological evaluation. Yeah, the list of cons is longer than the pro's, because the con's are specific details and the pro's cover vast overarching attitudes and emotions. But the pro's are always more present than the con's. It's not that he NEVER displays affection, or does romantic gestures, it's that it's not as often as I'd like. Also, when he's not being insensitive, he's the most sensitive person ever. Like, truly. He knows what *real* intimacy is, and that's rare. Maybe he rollercoasters because he *is* so capable of being *so* open. Bouncing between extreme highs and lows and left and rights sounds familiar... I can definitely empathize with that.
And that theory about me staying with/being obsessed with/chasing him, or trying to 'make it work' because I initially felt something that in some way validated me that I've been trying to get back ever since would have been a decent (if not completely obvious) theory if it weren't for the fact that I said I still experience those moments with him all the time. Once again, boy do I feel listened to.
I'm not saying that the cons aren't problems; they obviously are. But it's people that can only see that, that are unwilling to listen to explanations from the source, unwilling to see the bigger picture, or unwilling to accept that people react to depression in different ways, or change, or don't always show love the same way, well, it's those people that I blame for the 50% divorce rate.
Oh, and he knows what real commitment is. There's a big bonus.
As for the steroids thing.... 1. We've both been recreational drug users in the past, so this isn't that weird. We're not anymore... it just got boring. 2. He was born with a VERY major birth defect, both immediately visually noticeable and limiting as far as physical mobility. That could have a lot to do with the insecurity that pushes someone to use steroids.
Or to be a dick. Or to mistrust women, who he probably got used by or didn't get attention from at all in his youth. The bottom line is that he doesn't cheat, he doesn't lie, he doesn't flake, he's not violent, he has integrity. Suddenly the being a jerk doesn't seem so bad.
Especially when considering that he actually listens to me and makes... eh, some sort of attempt at improving. At least overall it's gotten better. No one mentioned that either.
Oh, and whoever said "all men cheat"? I'm literally praying for you. Don't believe that; it's not true by any means. I promise. Society exaggerates the difference between men and women; actual psychological studies have found that there's about a 98% overlap in the real population. I have plenty of close guy friends who are like brothers to me who I've known for years, and I've heard them talk about their girlfriends and personal drama and such, and trust me- a lot of guys have all the needs for commitment and devotion that most women do. They just don't show it the same way.
I'm not saying he's NOT a jerk and I'm NOT dumping him. I'm defending him in this post because no one bothered to look at both sides of the equation, they just took the easy answer. Now I'll be on my way and continue to think about whether this is what I need in my life right now on my own. The only reason why I even bothered posting this is because I'm hoping that at least one person in this "group therapy" will be inspired to meditate a little bit on what being a "counselor" actually means.
12I'm a little confused. All we can comment on is what you tell us. Based on that, you had a HUGE list of complaints, most were pretty serious, and (here's the kicker) you sounded very upset by them. If you wanted an unbiased response, we'd all have to hear your boyfriend's side of the story.
Obviously we are not your personal therapist and it's pretty dumb to think that that's the kind of response you'd get from a website full of people who don't know you.
But based on your recent additions to your story. I would now advise: if you think you love him enough to get over all the stuff on your con list, then by all means, stay with the guy. I still think that the random dumping and the not telling his mom about you is not ok though.
You really need to talk to him about all of this. Not us.
13OP, honey, you are heading into choppy waters if you stay with this guy! I went there, it was bad, I abandoned ship but it still ended up costing me a lot of money, time and heartache. My ex wanted me to dye my hair like his ex, cut it like her, dress like her... it was insane! If the man is in love with someone else, he is not in love with you. If he doesn't like how you look and you do, he is not in love with you. Do yourself a favor and cut him off NOW before you end up spending all kinds of money trying to fix your relationship and changing your entire life. Please, for the love of all that is holy, do NOT believe for a second that he won't dump you on your rear in a heartbeat if the object of his affections comes on the market. You will never "make him" do anything... you won't "make him see" how beautiful you are, you can't "make him appreciate" you for who you are and most importantly, you can't "make him love" you like you deserve!
14Oh I just gotta say that I'm so lucky I never have been with a guy like that when I was your age (well, I was naive at that time hence the long relationship with ex-fiancee).
I thought my ex-fiancee (the guy I've been with the longest in THE PAST) was bad, but your bf just wins in the 'bad bf' round.
Believe it or not, my ex and I had lots of fun too, I was his best friend and vice versa. And to affirm what you're saying, I know that I'm not in any way 'nice' or 'sweet' when you get to know me.
I just know this after years of what I consider 'poor treatments': I deserved better, and believe it or not, just because someone is/can be good person/bf, it doesn't mean that he's right for you (and vice versa).
He may treat other girls better than he's treated you and he may fall in love with another girl more (because there's that possibility that he's settling for you) that he'll do the length to do what it takes to get her to love him back.
You know why I say that...well, my hub's ex told me that my hub NEVER treated her (she was his really long time gf and I thought she most likely was the 'love of his life') as nicely as he treats me.
That's why she knows he really loves/wants me. Sure, my hub ain't perfect, I sure am not too, but at least, I know he treats me right and I don't doubt my husband's love AT ALL.
Yes, breaking up is hard (always has been), but sure glad I dumped my ex. I'm pretty sure that you'll feel glad in the future if you do it. ASAP is the best possible way, but yeah, most likely you'll stick it out, which is fine (since it's not my life, thankfully). Sometimes when you go through life, you need to get beaten down and broken down at some relationships (or get out of it with lots of bruises) so you'll learn your lesson via real life experience. Good luck!
15Actually, OP, I bothered to look at both sides....I actually read your very lengthy post (along with your very long response), and put quite a bit of thought into my response. Trust me, I'm sorry I wasted my time on someone who is so rude and immature. Perhaps you should meditate on what it means to be grateful - you know, that people who don't even know you would take the time to try to help....or maybe just skip that and go right to being ashamed of yourself.
16Hi I just wanted to say that I too read your whole post. Like someone else said, it seems to me that the bad things outweigh the good things here. I also get from the overall tone of your post that you are frustrated and very unsure about him. I am not a counsellor, but I do have a fair bit of experience and knowledge about relationships. The two things that really struck me were when you said that he is very easily irritated and very critical on you. To me, these are signs that you two are basically not compatible. Also, I think that he has the potential to become verbally abusive to you based on comments that he made when you were out to dinner. Why would you want to be with someone that wants to change you and cannot accept you for who you are, right now? When you described the dinner when he made you cry, it reminded me of a dinner I had with my ex when we went away to a resort. He ruined it by criticizing me and I also ended up in the bathroom crying, and crying for the rest of the night. I noticed in your second post that you made several excuses for him on why he behaves in this way. I am kind of confused about why you wrote this post. I think that some of the answers you received offended you, but others just hit too close to home. Overall, he does not sound like a good partner or a good match for you. I think that if you were fine with all of his bad behaviour, you would not have written this post.
You mentioned that he alternates between highs and low, like a rollercoaster. This is a typical description of someone that suffers from bipolar disorder. Certainly, I do not know this man so I have no idea if that is what he has. I think at the very least he probably has some anger issues and emotional problems. Oftentimes men like this choose a type of woman and are adept at picking up women that they know will stay with them and put up with their behaviour. You mentioned that you are truly happy with him. If that is the case, then why are you writing this post?????? I get the feeling that you will continue to make excuses for him, stay with him and put up with his immature behaviour regardless of what anyone here says. That is entirely your choice, I know that I stayed with my verbally abusive ex for 4 years but it was not worth it. Your bf seems to mostly really want you when you can't have you. He obviously likes a challenge. You mentioned that you think somehow his behaviour would get better if you became more hard to get to know. Ok, so suddenly he will want to marry you, phone you on your birthday, get you gifts on special occasions, stop being rude and insensitive, stop comparing you to his ex, stop being sexually selfish and unreliable?????????? NO, I don't think so girl. These are fundamental negative qualities that he possess that you and no other girl will be able to change. When you really love someone and you are in a healthy relationship, you don't have to be emotionally withholding just to get attention from them. A guy that is right for you will not only want you or treat you well when you are a challenge. A man that is good for you will treat you well 99% of the time! He will want to please you sexually and every other way. He will go out of his way to tell his family about you and how great you are because he truly sees you as a big part of his future.
17OP, you wrote a long post with a ton of complaints about your limp d!ck, douchebag boyfriend, people here responded with their opinions very respectfully, then you proceed to dump on the members because they didn't tell you what you wanted to hear? How can we look at "both sides of the equation" when we don't have your boyfriend's point of view? All we have is your explanation of his behavior, which makes him sound like an utter tool.
Grow up, please. After reading your own list of character flaws, outlined by yourself, I would say that you two deserve each other, a match made in heaven.
By the way, any 24 year old guy that tells you he isn't interested in sex like he was when he was 20 is lying....he just isn't interested in sex with you.
Add that to your con list.
18you need therapy.. seriously. people read what you wrote and based on that, gave you advice. i think you're just mad, everyone didn't write what YOU wanted to hear. very defensive.
19LOL @ Jazztummy! I completly agree though.
20Honey...too much rationalization. This is not love.
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