I'm 20, and I've been with my BF for 15 months now. We're both in college, though he is 25 because his family couldn't afford to pay for his education all at once, so he did 3 years, worked for 2 and came back. Last semester he took 21 hours (the max allowed at my school) even though I told him it was a bad idea, and he became extremely withdrawn. He barely left his computer or went to class. He barely talked to me, either. He would tell me to go do stuff with friends but was very bothered when I wasn't around, though he barely had sex with or paid attention me at all. By the end of the semester, I was distraught because I love him so much and it didn't seem he loved me anymore; finding out that he had cheated on an ex of his from one of his girl friends got me so mad that I made us take a break over Christmas break until we could talk to each other face to face. I found out it may have been hasty after I talked to her more and found out the relationship was 6 years ago, and decided to give him another chance when we got back, on the condition that he completely reform his behavior, get tested and get counseling. He has also started working out 5 days a week and joined a club of his own to get out of the house. He has done all this, but a strange trend has popped up; whenever I start to get nervous and babble or pace, he has become more agressive. For instance, once I was talking about how I was nervous since my period was late, and started to pace, instead of being supportive, he got up, pulled me by the back of my pants down onto his bed, clamped his arms around my chest and hissed at me to listen to him. I started crying immediately because it hurt some and terrified me, and he immediately let go and apologized profusely; he knows I come from an abusive background, and made it clear that he was just panicking because I was panicked and was terribly sorry, and got down on his hands and knees to beg forgiveness. (He has never been this way before; the worst was once when we had a big fight 3 months ago and he grabbed my arms a little too hard when he was trying to make a point.) After he made me cry we had a big discussion, and since he had been pointing to marriage lately, I told him I wasn't ready for that, and he told me that he felt that he had done enough "penance" by "being extra good" for last semester and that I was holding a grudge against him. I have forgiven him, but the fact is that it will take more than a month to fix a semester of neglect, and I told him so. He then said he didn't know what he would do without me. I was flabbergasted; he had hinted towards engagement, but I thought it was all in fun because he usually said it just to tease me, and asked him if I hypothetically told him that I wanted to see other people what would happen to him; he said he would never marry and devote himself to work, because his girlfriend directly before me was very emotionally abusive to him ( which is a well confirmed fact through mutual friends), and that he was tired of getting hurt - that he would give up on love and live alone. He also said that he would only ever marry if it was to me, and told me that guys don't absolutely need life outside work to be happy. I was shocked that he would give up on himself so easily. The conversation changed to fixing what we have now, and I'm currently still with him, but I need to know - is he manipulating me to stay? Is this self-esteem issue part of the issue for which he is going to counselling and will be fixed? Could he be telling the truth at all? Is the agression because he's been working out so much & there is too much testosterone? He has never made any of these excuses for himself and is still going to counselling... but I need to know if this is something that can be worked through or if these are big red flags with "RUN NOW!!" all over them. I do love him, and I don't want to leave him when he obviously needs help... but I need to know if this is bad enough to warrant being cold and cutting my losses so he can find someone when he is healthy and I can not have to deal with a potentially abusive relationship. I also want to know if I'm cruel for staying with him when I don't see marriage in our future just yet. I really don't want to have to do this if I don't have to, especially because I hate to betray the trust of others and break both our hearts. Help!
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Um.. okay first of all, I have no idea what "21 hours" means but it seems like that is kind of an important turning point in this situation so I feel like I'm missing a big chunk of information.
Second, you sound VERY overdramatic. Getting overly excited and panicky when you should be trying to think calm and clearly. You "went on a break" immediately after finding out he cheated in a past relationship but obviously didnt take time to figure out the whole situation before freaking out and over-reacting, then you are a couple days late on your period and start panicking before thinking clearly or logically and taking a test or even considering the fact that STRESS often delays a period.
I think your boyfriend is stressed out and has some emotional issues and you sound like an enabler for him. You two ignite each other's insecurities and you both go ballistic or something. Why is he considering marriage when you are both still in college anyway? A break is probably a better idea right now; finish school and let him go through counselling then reassess the situaiton when you are both in a better place emotionally and mentally. You might consider taking some counselling or at least some stress management courses as well.
Good luck
1Fallen's right, take a break, a long one, focus on school, stop stressing about everything else, once you get that done think about where to go with your life next (while planning what you want to do with your *own* life after you graduate. Let him deal with his own life, and you focus on yours. The two of you really are sucking the life out of each other. As for the 21 hours thing, I'm going to assume that's 21 credit ours, equivalent to 7 classes or so? I don't know how that fits into anything though. Been there, I took 18 credit hours and still had time for my gf without flipping out on her and pulled out straight A's while having to deal with added family stress hand having to pay my own school stuff. Anyway, been down this stress road before including some of that, but I've never laid a finger on my gf or grabbed her too hard or w/e else. He's got issues to work out, and well...he's not helping you any at this point. And...well your relationship isn't really helping as it is right now. So maybe a change of focus is what's needed. Not everyone can handle everything at once, and well sometimes time needs to be allocated.
2For the future reference of others, the average college student takes between 15 and 17 hours of classes, which amounts to about the same amount of work as an 9-5 M-F job, depending upon your major and how hard your classes are. Taking 21 hours is... inadvisable, usually. Basically, the person goes from a 40 hr a week job load to about a 60 or 70 hr a week load with work to do overtime, unless they are some kind of wunderkind. Just putting that out there.
3In my opinion, anyway. Far be it for me to be any kind of ultimate authority though, since I am a science major and that takes a little more work than usual.
4At this point, I think you guys should take a break. He's getting violent, before he really does hurt you, move away for a while. It's also not wise to date someone you're going to the same school with as you're not allowed a distraction period, but it's not like you can change that at this point. Try going on a break and taking steps back in the relationship. Go back to courting.. separation time is generally very good but it could break you two for good. Be careful of the advice you're taking..
Remember, this is about what YOU want. I'd suggest a break, but that's from my past experience, and I'm not in your shoes. Just be aware of your situation and any decisions you make, look at the effects; both long and short term.
Good luck!
5Alright, let me start off by saying that even though you are 20 years old, you sound just slightly immature and pretty dramatic about all of this. 21 hours of coursework is a lot, I have done that before, and it is obvious the kind of stress your boyfriend is under. Keep in mind he probably did it for a reason, but it might not have been the best idea (obviously) if he is starting to get stressed over it. You warned him against it, but have you been supportive in the least? Have you offered to help wherever you can -- even if it's just looking over a paper or printing out some information he might view as helpful? If not, it would seem to me that if all you did was complain about the situation, when all he needed was a little understanding, that he would be upset with you. Now, that does NOT give him a reason to be violent with you or scare you in anyway. I understand that you get panicky, but panic is one of the worst things you could possibly feel. You need to be rational and logical -- there is no room for panic. Honestly, staying calm is one of the best things you will ever teach yourself. Your period being late is not a reason to get all dramatic -- it's reason to think for a second, about things like STRESS that can cause lateness, get a pregnancy test if you are substantially late, but first and foremost, wait a few days to see if it'll come. Did your boyfriend have to do what he did? No. Which leads me to this observation -- this relationship, from what it seems like at a "bad" part is not very amazing. He doesn't sound very mature about it all, but then again, he doesn't sound like he is in his right mind. It sounds like he is just under a ton of pressure and it is impacting him emotionally. I think a break is best for both of you -- you sound like you drive each other crazy. He cheats on an ex, you flip your lid. He reacts to your panic by going nuts. Does that sound healthy? No way. You both need to figure out your issues -- you with your insecurity and stress, and him with his stress.
6ok, this sounds like the relationship i had with my ex. well turns out he was schizophrenic. lol. he got violent after he was withdrawn... dude, dont be flattered by this boy's proposals of marriage or saying that "i will be single forever if you dont marry me". my ex said that all the time. that's BS. of course he's going to go off and pursue other women. it's only logical.
GET AWAY FROM HIM. guys should NEVER hurt their girlfriends. if he hurts you a little (even by accident) he'll just hurt u more in the future. with my ex, it started out with little things, him being slightly rough... then it escalated to him punching me in the face and trying to kill me. i'm not saying your guy will do this, but who knows? if you let him get away with it, he'll keep doing it.
25 and still in college? wow he sounds like a loser. he better be damn cute.
i'd say take a break. look for other men. there are PLENTY out there... way better then the troll you're dating.
ttyl
7Yep...i agree with therrra. It only gets worse. Mine started by throwing an ashtray at me and it finally ended when he broke my sternum and I had my lung removed from the clot that formed.
8Get out now while you can!
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